tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3907677492250052991.post5585054848920327067..comments2023-10-18T05:06:49.026-05:00Comments on Missouri Education Watchdog: Trangressive Journalism at University of Missouri?dsmhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01501964533388756254noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3907677492250052991.post-7277334711239455852012-04-12T09:44:58.355-05:002012-04-12T09:44:58.355-05:00I'm still waiting for one of you to respond to...I'm still waiting for one of you to respond to the author's questions at the end of the piece. Focusing on the writing style choices of the author or whether or not the paper receives funding or recognition from the school is beside the point. If this paper is a learning paper for younger students, then is the lesson about transgressive journalism that they are apparently being taught appropriate? Are we in an age where the lines between journalism, satire and opinion have become so hopelessly blurred that anything written in a paper is considered true journalism? If the Maneater has had to apologize for its content three times in the last semester, have they actually been learning anything (other than how to write an unfelt apology)? Answers to those questions would provide far more interesting commentary folks. Trolls pick at the chip in the plate while ignoring the steak on it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3907677492250052991.post-67779404446861805452012-04-11T21:38:35.310-05:002012-04-11T21:38:35.310-05:00Definitions as a beginning are a cliche, but that ...Definitions as a beginning are a cliche, but that aside...how can you judge these people's ability to report when you can't do so yourself? As Nicole stated, a simple Google search would have turned up the result that The Maneater is not a school-sponsored newspaper. And even if the students at The Maneater "receive scholarships funded by the state," what is the point you are trying to make there? I'm sure the students at JSB also receive state-funded scholarships. <br /><br />Also, you say, "I thought the JSB did better "reporting" on this issue than did The Maneater." Because that makes sense, The Maneater reporting on an issue that it created. You obviously have not seen or read the April Fools issue that is the cause of such controversy. I am not sure how The Maneater would "break news" that it offended a large portion of the campus. <br /><br />Both JSB and The Maneater are entities separate from the university and both serve different roles on the campus. Please do more research on the function of said publications before you attempt to compare one's journalistic integrity over the other.Katie C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3907677492250052991.post-90453059320738808502012-04-10T08:16:05.150-05:002012-04-10T08:16:05.150-05:00Oh my goodness! Beginning a 'piece' with a...Oh my goodness! Beginning a 'piece' with a definition! Eegads! Next thing you know they'll be ending sentences with prepositions... and... and... that is just the sort of thing up with which we shall not put!<br /><br />;-)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3907677492250052991.post-48808691729760587852012-04-09T21:20:53.550-05:002012-04-09T21:20:53.550-05:00I don't want to beat up on the author, because...I don't want to beat up on the author, because he or she is trying to make a point. <br />If anything however, please, please, please consider refraining from starting a piece with the definition of a word. Give your reader the benefit of the doubt of knowing the word's definition, ability to look it up on their own, or, at worst, define it in brief and quickly move on.<br />Definitions at the beginning of piece just delay the point/meat of the story. Definition beginnings are cliche.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3907677492250052991.post-23548985664821836062012-04-09T19:02:30.373-05:002012-04-09T19:02:30.373-05:00Thanks for this information Nicole. It is helpful...Thanks for this information Nicole. It is helpful. However, I came across this information while researching The Maneater:<br /><br />"The Maneater is the independent, student-run newspaper at MU. It covers issues mostly relating to students and aims to serve primarily a campus readership. It is distributed throughout campus and the city twice a week, on Tuesdays and Fridays."<br /><br />Technically you are correct. It is not school sponsored but it would be interesting to see how many of these students receive scholarships funded by the state. But your point is well taken.<br /><br />You know more about what happens on the Columbia campus; based on this particular incident, I thought the JSB did better "reporting" on this issue than did The Maneater.<br /><br />I appreciate you passing on this information. Regardless of if these students were freshmen or sophomores, this never should have been published and the words "transgressive" and "journalism" should not appear together. Satire, fiction, opinion, etc can be trangressive. But if journalists are taught to write factually, they are doing their profession a severe disservice.stlgretchenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05148560735290088930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3907677492250052991.post-20636738691492709942012-04-09T18:44:58.327-05:002012-04-09T18:44:58.327-05:00As a journalism student at the university I'd ...As a journalism student at the university I'd like to say a few things. First off, The Maneater is not "school sponsored and state funded" as it is operated completely independently of the university. The paper even pays rent to maintain space on campus in an effort to stay independent from both the University of Missouri and the Missouri School of Journalism.<br /><br />Secondly, JSB is not necessarily doing a better job, as much of the content is laden with errors, snark and satire - much of the content not necessarily being news. In fact, because of prior posts, it's become known that some future employers are not interested in J school graduates. JSB is often criticized by journalism students at the university, and many are ashamed it exists.<br /><br />On a last note, while what was published at The Maneater was wrong in many ways, the paper is comprised mainly of freshman and sophomore students (and not all journalism). The Maneater is considered a "learning paper" because students have not formally entered the journalism school until junior and senior year.<br /><br />Please consider some of this information in this and future posts. Thank you!Nicolenoreply@blogger.com